Non-Foundationers - taught by your parents

Eruresto · Post by **Eruresto** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:14 am

Just a quick question which has bugged me for ages: what do Non-Foundationers call their parents in lessons? I've asked a few and it's always "Mum", "Dad", etc...but I wonder if there are any exceptions?

I know Peter Mayhew was taught by his brother, and just called him Arthur.

What is it like being taught etc by your parents?

Great Plum · Post by **Great Plum** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:37 am

I don't know...

Dad never taught me...

that would have just been too uncomfortable...

blondie95 · Post by **blondie95** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:33 pm

Dad didnt teach me either, (was never going to do an alevel in design).

But was told by the head just before i started to still call him Dad rather than Sir-which i did, it would have been wierd not too.

What is most bizarre i found as a non foundationer was going from calling staff by their first names prior to CH 6th form then by mr....../miss..... whilst at school to go back to calling them by first names again now i have left and know them as friends etc of parents.

Eruresto · Post by **Eruresto** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:35 pm

Were you a new dep then? I thought Non-Foundationers always joined on second form, or whereever they were at when their parents got the job...

Great Plum · Post by **Great Plum** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:09 pm

Amy was a New dep - she decided to slum it (!!) in Horsham...

Mid A 15 · Post by **Mid A 15** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:21 pm

There seem to be a fair few these days from what I gather reading The Blue.

They were few and far between in my time: Mc Connell, Fryer and "Beaky" Eagle's son are the only three I can think of although there may have been more.

In those days though there were a lot more bachelor masters which probably explains the difference thinking about it!

Katharine · Post by **Katharine** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:42 pm

We did not have any non- Foundationers at Hertford. I can remember DR saying that it was impossible to enter Ch after the age of 12.

My father was the school chaplain of my previous school. As I am sure Matt and Amy agree it is a very strange situation, seeing staff in your own house as friends and then having them teaching you. I was never taught by my Dad, but my mother was the relief nurse in the San and she did give me first aid one time - no way was she anyone other than my Mum then!

midget · Post by **midget** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:23 pm

The daughter of our school doctor was at Hertford, non-resident, but an "extra" in 8s. Surprise,surprise- as soon as she left, he resigned as our doctor. Mercifully I have forgotten his name.

sejintenej · Post by **sejintenej** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:16 pm

blondie95 wrote:What is most bizarre i found as a non foundationer was going from calling staff by their first names prior to CH 6th form then by mr....../miss..... whilst at school to go back to calling them by first names again now i have left and know them as friends etc of parents.

My wife has a cousin who lives close to us here. To family he is Fergie but to non-family he is Barry and heaven help us if we call him Barry when others are not present or Fergie if others are there!

His actual name is Ferguson Barry P*****

As for your dilemna, I would have thought that Sir/Madam would have been proper at least in front of other pupils ; did other pupils use teacher's first names? Did Mr Eagle call his son by family or forename (I never did find out)?

blondie95 · Post by **blondie95** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:40 am

sejintenej wrote:
blondie95 wrote:What is most bizarre i found as a non foundationer was going from calling staff by their first names prior to CH 6th form then by mr....../miss..... whilst at school to go back to calling them by first names again now i have left and know them as friends etc of parents.
My wife has a cousin who lives close to us here. To family he is Fergie but to non-family he is Barry and heaven help us if we call him Barry when others are not present or Fergie if others are there!

His actual name is Ferguson Barry P*****

As for your dilemna, I would have thought that Sir/Madam would have been proper at least in front of other pupils ; did other pupils use teacher's first names? Did Mr Eagle call his son by family or forename (I never did find out)?

I did not slum it in Horsham, Tanbridge at that time was a very good state secondary school!

I was offered the oppoutunity at 6th form and thought why not as i had grown up around the boarding school environment, i wanted to know what it really was like!

As for names and addressing staff, whilst at school i did call them all by mr/mrs sir/madam when at school! but out of school so holidays and once left i call them by their first names!

Great Plum · Post by **Great Plum** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:58 am

I still find it hard to call teachers by their first names!

Eruresto · Post by **Eruresto** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:03 am

Very true, Matt, although I wouldn't anyway, but when I leave I'm still going to call teachers Sir etc...

icomefromalanddownunder · Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:18 am

Katharine wrote:We did not have any non- Foundationers at Hertford. I can remember DR saying that it was impossible to enter Ch after the age of 12.

Hi Katharine

During my time we had someone join 6s for the 6th form. I can't remember her name, but can visualise her sitting opposite me in the Day Room - short blond hair and a very competent lacrosse player. Have no idea how or why she ended up at CH, but I have a feeling that she didn't see out the two years.

Alex, Liz, Mary, Munch - do you remember?

icomefromalanddownunder · Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:25 am

Eruresto wrote:Very true, Matt, although I wouldn't anyway, but when I leave I'm still going to call teachers Sir etc...

I'm sure that you will get over it

I moved from the, then, strictly class-, seniority- affected system of England, where I would have been struck by a thunderous look if I had so much as considered calling Professors anything other than 'Professor', or, the friendly ones 'Prof', to Australia.

When I first addressed our Head of Department as 'Prof', he smiled quizzically at me, and informed me that he is 'Colin'. 'What? No? I couldn't possibly .......'

For the first year of my employment he was Pro-o-o-olin, but I finally realised that it was OK to treat and address him as a normal human being, and that this was in no way being disrespectful of his station.

MKM · Post by **MKM** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:53 am

icomefromalanddownunder wrote:Hi Katharine

During my time we had someone join 6s for the 6th form. I can't remember her name, but can visualise her sitting opposite me in the Day Room - short blond hair and a very competent lacrosse player. Have no idea how or why she ended up at CH, but I have a feeling that she didn't see out the two years.

Alex, Liz, Mary, Munch - do you remember?

Sorry, I don't remember her, though the bit about her leaving early does sound familiar. (I was amazed, I didn't know you could leave early. This suggests it was early in my CH career).

Are you sure about the lacrosse? I didn't think it was played at Hertford.

There was a girl in 6's called Lucy(?) whose mother was a house mistress in one of the houses across the square. I think she may have been a non-foundationer, at least for her first year. After that I think she was a presentee.

Also, was there a history teacher called Mrs Topliss who had a daughter Fiona at the school?